WikiLeaks reveals undiplomatic U.S. critiques


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A large batch of U.S. diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks and given to several media outlets reveals unflattering views of several world leaders.

Some details of the latest WikiLeaks dump were published Sunday by the weekly German magazine Der Spiegel, which was reportedly placed on newsstands too early.

According to tweets from German-speaking Twitter users who picked up the embargoed issue, Der Spiegel said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is compared to Hitler in U.S. diplomatic files.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy was nicknamed "the emperor with no clothes" and Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai is described as "driven by paranoia."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is praised as "Teflon."

US embassy cables: Saudi king urges US strike on Iran

A number of other publications, including the French newspaper Le Monde, the New York Times, England's Guardian newspaper and the Spanish newspaper El Pais have been given access to the cache of 250,000 documents and were expected to release details Sunday and throughout the week.

The New York Times said the files cover three years of communications between U.S. diplomats and Washington.

Courtesy : CBC NEWS - Guardian


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Saudi King calls Zardari greatest obstacle to Pak progress: WikiLeaks

this one i can't believe PPPs own newspaper (salman taseer's newspaper) is writing that....

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\11\29\story_29-11-2010_pg1_1

http://thepakistaninewspaper.com/news_detail.php?id=18451


#3

IMO this is all a deliberate leak on the US govt's part. Everyone knows that embassies are used for intelligence gathering. And no head of state is going to take any name calling seriously. So none of this is damaging to the US.

In fact it promotes the US worldview - an anti-Iran, anti Pakistani nukes, anti-china viewpoint. It gives more ammunition to those who want to attack Iran or steal Pakistan's nuclear technology.


#4

^^^Gosh....here we go again with the conspiracy theories and how evil the USA is....did not take too long at all to get this popped up..


#5

Isn't this all preplanned?


#6

Thank God! this topic is way above my head.


#7

These all pre-planned to achieve some hidden objects.


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So all you preplan guys did you read this http://mirror.wikileaks.info/leak/cia-afghanistan.pdf it was published long before France put on a highest level of security. Army was patrolling around Eiffel tower. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092706413.html.

Letter bombs were being delivered to embassies in Greece. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/02/greek-mail-bomb-attacks-athens.


#9

^^ I believe the christians called that reaping what you sow.


#10

@Rokra - it's "as you sow so shall you reap" :)


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how it's possible that the so-called superpowers can't stop a website (a group of people) from leaking these secret documents?

دال میں کچھ کالا ہے


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@Rokra - it’s “as you sow so shall you reap” :)
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Same thing put another way. The Buddhists call it Karma Vipaka - cause and effect. There is a scientific law about it as well by Isaac Newton. Something to do with actions having an equal and opposite reaction.


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how it’s possible that the so-called superpowers can’t stop a website (a group of people) from leaking these secret documents?

دال میں کچھ کالا ہے

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Thats a good question. Just the other day the US censored 70 websites for supposedly hosting copyrighted material i.e. stolen material:

http://www.osnews.com/story/24074/US_Government_Censors_70_Websites

Yet the same US govt. won’t take down wikileaks for sharing stolen material. Could it be because wikileaks is being deliberately manipulated to disseminate US propaganda?


#14

^ Wikileaks is not a torrent website, nor did it steal anything. It receives documents from third-parties. AFAIK there is no law in US constitution that says they can't post stuff they receive, as it is a news/press related site and thus is protected under First Amendment. As far as its hosting goes, it is hosted by a Sweden based company, and US can't do much about that. Just like RIAA/MPAA can't do anything about piratebay's hosting http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt


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^ Wikileaks is not a torrent website, nor did it steal anything. It receives documents from third-parties. AFAIK there is no law in US constitution that says they can’t post stuff they receive, as it is a news/press related site and thus is protected under First Amendment. As far as its hosting goes, it is hosted by a Sweden based company, and US can’t do much about that. Just like RIAA/MPAA can’t do anything about piratebay’s hosting http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt
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Also it’s server located all the world, they can’t do anything with it. It’s Amerrricaa, not Pakistan, where a site can be closed on the instructions of any xyz captain of a abc Intel agency.


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^ Wikileaks is not a torrent website, nor did it steal anything. It receives documents from third-parties. AFAIK there is no law in US constitution that says they can’t post stuff they receive, as it is a news/press related site and thus is protected under First Amendment. As far as its hosting goes, it is hosted by a Sweden based company, and US can’t do much about that. Just like RIAA/MPAA can’t do anything about piratebay’s hosting http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt
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Finally a voice of reason amongst all the conspiracy theory activists :)


#17

Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

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"WikiLeaks appears to meet the legal criteria" of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, King wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reviewed by CNET. He added: "WikiLeaks presents a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States."

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King also wrote separately to Attorney General Eric Holder, asking him to "criminally charge WikiLeaks activist Julian Assange under the Espionage Act" for conspiracy to disclose classified information.

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If the State Department adds WikiLeaks to the terror list, one effect would be to prohibit U.S. banks from processing payments to the group. WikiLeaks currently takes donations through PayPal, bank transfers, and Visa and Mastercard payments.

Another would be to trigger the punitive measures included in the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, which made it a federal felony to provide "material support or resources" to a terrorist organization. That would likely dry up support from U.S.-based volunteers for WikiLeaks--one volunteer has been detained and released at the border already--and curb the group's options for Web hosting services.

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hurr durrr


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Does any of it matters to us??

I bet one month later everyone is gonna forget about it soon.


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Does any of it matters to us??

I bet one month later everyone is gonna forget about it soon.

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Oh yes everyone forget but one will not who want to do some action on the basis of it to fulfill hidden agenda or one who become enemy of other.


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Well here some new revelations

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A rail link between Iran and Pakistan would be delayed for the foreseeable future because of unrest from Baluch militants in both countries. "The current rail connection, running between Quetta, Pakistan and Zahedan, Iran is in poor condition and has low freight-carrying capacity. Moreover, according to reports it has recently been repeatedly subject to rocket attacks and other disruption by Baluchi tribes."
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So Mr. Bilour was just paying lip service.

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Likewise, a natural gas pipeline agreement between Iran and Pakistan, signed with great fanfare earlier this year, is unlikely to bear fruit anytime soon because "the Pakistanis don't have the money to pay for either the pipeline, or the gas
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So brace yourself for more gas loadshedding.

Source:http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-53208520101129?pageNumber=2

And rest is just the usual stuff we all know, Zardari worried military may take him out: WikiLeaks etc.