Whats the deal with the DDR3 Ram prices?


#1

I bought a 2gb stick of ddr3 kingston memory for around RS1300 a year ago, today its priced at RS2600 (galaxy.com.pk). whats with the huge price hike?


#2

ur not alone there bro

everything here is so damn expensive even the thing u want to buy went out of fashion for like 2 years ago but still as far as rams are concerned recently the prices have gone up internationally as well

i mean kingston is one brand the prices for crucial and corsair(best) are insane at any store u can visit. even some deals are pretty expensive too

i would advise u to wait for the black friday and cyber monday sales and then buy something and hopefully somewhat reasonable

btw this is my first post here


#3

the prices vary for ram cz most focus of industry is now on SSD and mobile ram/rom. also DDR 4 is now announced so prices will now increase.

buying a bigger 4gb stick is cheaper and saves a slot.


#4

Hello!

It's true that 'old' ram gets more expensive, but, ddr3 above pc3-12800 is still pretty relevant (will change with time of course) ... you haven't stated the specifications of the ram ... like, pc3-19200 ram is likely to be more expensive than pc3-12800 but pc3-10600 may cost as much as pc3-12800 (though faster ram can also run at lower frequency with added benefits) ... also, the lower the cache latency (CL), the more costly it's going to get ... though in most cases one can benefit from more ram rather than faster ram (integrated graphics could benefit from faster ram) ... tighter timings are much desired in any case! On a positive note, your 'old' 2gb ram hasn't lost much value either!

To track prices:

http://pcpartpicker.com/trends/memory/

http://www.dramexchange.com/ (not consumer oriented)

Regards,

Ahmed


#5

^ value rams were mentioned by OP.. cz that price is for value ram series. both kingston and corsair cost that much in value range.

again i would reiterate that main reason for price hikes are basically 2

1 - When consumers demand increases and supply is less ( basic economic)

2 - when new tech arrives or focus of industry shift to other prospects ( SSD, Mobile platforms, other storage based tech)

PS; As for timings, yes, they are most desirable but not when a 4GB low latency stick cost as much as an 8gb stick with some nano sec higher latency (all bigger brands like corsair dominator, OCZ and Gskill etc)

. also DDR4 spec sheet states higher timings yet still multifold increase in bandwidth.. ( confirmed again by recent interview by one of the lead manufacturers of DDR 4)


#6

they did the same with hard drives i remember, last year i visited regal, uni-center and techno in karachi and from every god damn store owner i heard one thing "Bahiyan Hard Drive ki shortage hai" is lye prices bra di hai i was like GTFO, that include big stores like Galaxy.

after few months the prices drop back to normal.

One thing i have to say if you have a neighbour like China you should never say shortage of anything, because every god damn big company implanted there production factories there because of less cost and cheap labour.

and than again i am ashamed to hear such thing. and that's the one reason our country is going backward.

God Bless Pakistan.Ameen


#7

^ its not in pakistan.. the shortage was a global issue due to factories fire burn for WD and a few others in thailand or nearby area. , that was why there is huge shortage of HDD worldwide. every country price rose by upto 200%.. so that was not galaxy fault or anyone, else, that was a genuine issue.. this happens and still is basic economic issue worldwide.


#8

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^ its not in pakistan.. the shortage was a global issue due to factories fire burn for WD and a few others in thailand or nearby area. , that was why there is huge shortage of HDD worldwide. every country price rose by upto 200%.. so that was not galaxy fault or anyone, else, that was a genuine issue.. this happens and still is basic economic issue worldwide.

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disagree, i think its the opposite. i didn't see any HDD currntly which have written Made in Thailand. There is only made in china labels all over them.


#9

disagree with urself

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/thailand-floods-to-lead-to-hard-drive-shortages-for-months/61597

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEsQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.storagenewsletter.com%2Frubriques%2Fmiscellaneous%2Fthailand-floods-to-significant-impact-wd%2F&ei=fXFfVLuPNbWOsQSDqoAg&usg=AFQjCNEBJXWOZ73WHx0iBNmErGT-SpGO-A&sig2=qxYK_WNwdN1u8SdcAaPzBg

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fcarljohnson%2F2011%2F10%2F28%2Finside-wds-flooded-thai-factory%2F&ei=fXFfVLuPNbWOsQSDqoAg&usg=AFQjCNF1czEClZx9W34wuEJCIr3-f3Ekwg&sig2=bzJsS3hnl0gJ6K1kzkJ2ow


#10

[quote=“farhan_ds, post:9, topic:21626”]

disagree with urself

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/thailand-floods-to-lead-to-hard-drive-shortages-for-months/61597

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEsQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.storagenewsletter.com%2Frubriques%2Fmiscellaneous%2Fthailand-floods-to-significant-impact-wd%2F&ei=fXFfVLuPNbWOsQSDqoAg&usg=AFQjCNEBJXWOZ73WHx0iBNmErGT-SpGO-A&sig2=qxYK_WNwdN1u8SdcAaPzBg

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fcarljohnson%2F2011%2F10%2F28%2Finside-wds-flooded-thai-factory%2F&ei=fXFfVLuPNbWOsQSDqoAg&usg=AFQjCNF1czEClZx9W34wuEJCIr3-f3Ekwg&sig2=bzJsS3hnl0gJ6K1kzkJ2ow

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i think you didn't understand what i said buddy.

i am saying pakistani business man and distributors are the one who always make shortage's of stuff to raise their prices in the local market.

even if they had the stock at that time with them, they just followed the news and started saying that "oh we are not importing them because there is shortage" can you really believe this.

it's the same thing which they do with food products like rice, flours and vegetables before ramzan.

infact the news you are showing to me it was after my visit to the market, not just a day after but a month after.

and guess what many shop owner's told me at that time "Sir we don't have 500gb hdd available but we have 1TB in stock" how you are going to explain that, it's a prove that they want to make big bucks over these HDD at that time.

P.S WD is a big manufacturer but not the only one who make HDD's.


#11

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they did the same with hard drives i remember, last year i visited regal, uni-center and techno in karachi and from every god damn store owner i heard one thing "Bahiyan Hard Drive ki shortage hai" is lye prices bra di hai i was like GTFO, that include big stores like Galaxy.
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meaning 2013

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infact the news you are showing to me it was after my visit to the market, not just a day after but a month after.
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the flood came in end of 2011.. shortage continued for entire 2012 and 2013.

When official distributors are required to purchase stuff from comapies they are required to follow company pricing. PoP is one of the largest importers and so is galaxy for corsair products. WD Intel Gigabyte, MSI Hp Dell Canon Sony LG samsung all have official presence in Pk. so no shopkeeper can charge a much higher price otherwise company will simply revoke their license. this also falls down to local shops. they buy from the distributors.. if one shop is selling high price and the others are not, no one will buy from them., and all of them canot charge a higher price as the distributor regulates prices. like galaxy has official prices on their website. if some other shop takes corsair product from them and sell at 2k more, no one will buy from them.

only when their is actual shortage globally and economically, then prices rise globally and even then are regulated by company. worldwide prices were doubled, why would PK be any exception?

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it's the same thing which they do with food products like rice, flours and vegetables before ramzan.
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thats not a company product, its local grown item without any govt regulation. Roti is still sold at 8rs due to sasti roti scheme regulation even in ramzan. nan is not so it is sold 2rs higher price

Dalda pepsi Coke shezan nestle prices never rise even in ramzan or any other problem unless company specifies.

Lays have acute shortage of potato 1.5 years ago.. they raised price of chips by 5 rs . that price rise is still implemented but only 5rs.. no one sold for 10rs higher price even in shortage.

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what many shop owner's told me at that time "Sir we don't have 500gb hdd available but we have 1TB in stock"
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that is simply a matter of inventory. i cant even explain how simple that is.

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WD is a big manufacturer but not the only one who make HDD's.
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Thailand makes over half of the worlds supply of HDD..Western Digital and Seagate have just over 30% share each making it around 60% world wide..WD and seagate factories both were flooded in the same area.... Hitachi makes about 16% of world supply, followed by Toshiba (11%) and Samsung (10%). and hitachi has been bought over, so it doesnot exist.

Nidec was almost submerged and nidec makes the motors for almost 80% of the worlds HDD.. so 80% of the entire industry couldnot manufacture any HDD at all.