Tried to buy Windows XP - somethings never change

Back in 2004, I'd written about software piracy in Pakistan, and the difficulty of buying a original copy of windows here.

Well, four and a half years later, I went back out looking for a original copy of Windows XP 64 bit, and found out from Microsoft Pakistan that they don't sell XP anymore in Pakistan. Than I checked with Galaxy, who used to have it once upon a time - but they only had Vista now.

Somethings never change, it seems. You just can't buy software here, even if you try. So I headed over to the Piratebay and "bought a copy" from there instead.

[Please don't like to pirated software here.]

I do own more copies of Windows XP licenses than I actually have running on my PC's, but ironically all the installed copies are pirated, even on a laptop with the sticker stuck to the button - as it's so much more easier to install the new pirated versions which have a lot of stuff integrated into them.

I myself have switched over to Ubuntu, the XP was for someone else.

I believe its important to note that it really is the demand that influences stock. For example, nobody here is going to be willing to buy original software simply due to cost. Some softwares cost more then the majority of peoples monthly software!! Alas, if companies would begin trials of $3 software like they have in china and india, original software would be more common. However even in that scenario, if the software has elements removed, then it would be completely ignored as people would prefer the full version.

I'd also like to note that despite having an original XP license, i too use a pirated version simply due to it having all the updates on the disk!

@ KO

Microsoft has stop selling retail Windows XP quite a while ago. Microsoft has extended license of Windows XP for OEM up to May 2009 (note sure for exact month).

Microsoft want that everybody buy Windows Vista by not selling Windows XP but its trick is not working.

Let's see what will happen with Windows 7 retail release. I don't see any bright future for Windows 7. It will get same luke warm welcome of Windows Vista.

What Microsoft needs, is a "Windows 3.1 to Windows 95" thing. But Windows 7 is something like "Windows 95 to Windows 98". Same OS but tweaked to work a little better.

On the other hand, all major Linux-distro are releasing at least two major releases every year. Keep OS up to date for new hardware and new challenges of world.

Linux is slowly replacing desktop world.

By the way, it's worth mentioning that work on ReactOS is in progress. ReactOS will a clone of Windows XP. It is very slim, not at all bloated like Windows XP. I have tried it's nightly-build and it gives lighting speed on Pentium 4. I am waiting for version 1 release. It might ruin Microsoft Windows future and might even be end of Microsoft's Windows like AT&T's Unix.

As Linux has replaced AT&T's Unix, similarly ReactOS might replace Microsoft's Windows.

I am beginning to hate windows

It gets infected by viruses and I have tried to

use many anti-virus softwares but they fail to stop the virus the time it gets in the computer

I am looking for linux myself, as I have read on many websites that linux is virus free

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I am beginning to hate windows

It gets infected by viruses and I have tried to

use many anti-virus softwares but they fail to stop the virus the time it gets in the computer

I am looking for linux myself, as I have read on many websites that linux is virus free

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you dont hate windows, you dont know how to use windows. why is it that i have never been effected by a virus and you have?

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you dont hate windows, you dont know how to use windows. why is it that i have never been effected by a virus and you have?

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You never have a virus in your computer? Seriously? Can you claim that? No virus, spy, rootkit, backdoor, trojan? Nothing? Really?

I’ll impress if that after using other people’s CD\DVD discs, USB, or using internet, you never got virus? Wow!

I might need a class or two from you :P

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you dont hate windows, you dont know how to use windows. why is it that i have never been effected by a virus and you have?

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Well! I have been EFFECTED by a virus :( I’ve got Flu these days :P

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you dont hate windows, you dont know how to use windows. why is it that i have never been effected by a virus and you have?
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what to you use your computer for?

just as wampyr said, it’s impossible, you dun get a virus if you use internet,usb,cd’s etc

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You never have a virus in your computer? Seriously? Can you claim that? No virus, spy, rootkit, backdoor, trojan? Nothing? Really?

I’ll impress if that after using other people’s CD\DVD discs, USB, or using internet, you never got virus? Wow!

I might need a class or two from you :P

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I’ve never had problems running windows. A few tips:

1. Never insert a cd or usb or floppy from anyone else. If you need to give someone a file, burn a cd and just give it. If you really need to share a document, have it emailed.

2. When installing software, be very careful about the source. Only install software which you need, and noting else. Back in the days of the pre-internet era, stick to the few trusted shops, test the software first on a dummy pc, then install on your own. In the day of the internet, stick to open source software as much as possible.

3. When using the internet, have a firewall running.

4. Never, ever, ever, use Internet Explorer or Outlook Express.

5. Avoid porn and other such sites.

6. Don’t use ANY file sharing service.

I’ve never had a virus, or any other such thing in the 20 years I’ve been using pc’s following the above advice.

^ KO

I do try to take these precautions on my desktop (my workstation).

But on my laptop, it's another story. I did got viruses. These days everybody try to raise hand with a USB flash. I got a virus in laptop when a doctor, friend of mine, wanted to show his presentation in his USB flash stick :(

Another time, when a friend of mine wanted to show me a video (he downloaded from somewhere about the "guy" who "danced". You know what I am talking about :) ) But my friend played it in Windows Media Player, instead of my default Media Player Classic. And guess what, it downloaded spy which was hidden as "encoder/decoder" :(

Twice, I got silent virus sneaked-in through Internet Explorer (showing web-sites to client that most of web-sites look same in IE, FF, Opera). Second time, searching in Chinese web-sites to buy cheap items. :(

After, these four episodes. I have Windows disc ready along with softwares that I mostly use. If I suspect something is wrong (even not a virus). I don't bother to fix it. In less than 2 hours, Format+Reinstall, no headache, no time wasting. :)

By the way, I still remember my first computer virus. I was very young and we have MSDOS 3.3. If I recall correctly, it was "Stone" virus with message "Your computer is stoned" (instead of command prompt).

I borrowed a game (Prince of Persia) floppy from a friend of mine and got that virus :D I remember that I was shocked with "what is that?". I even don't know what a computer virus is, until my father told me :D

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You never have a virus in your computer? Seriously? Can you claim that? No virus, spy, rootkit, backdoor, trojan? Nothing? Really?

I’ll impress if that after using other people’s CD\DVD discs, USB, or using internet, you never got virus? Wow!

I might need a class or two from you :P

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Well I have original windows XP pro and I can claim that Ive never had a virus or single infected stuff in my PC and No I dont use lot of softwares to keep on scanning my PC all the time, different spyware removal and blah blah. Its abt the way u use computer or a laptop.

Original WIndows XP Pro

Internet Security Suite

and a Utilities package

This is what All I have from years but still IT again depends how u use your computer or how u setup the Softwares. Yes I do use internet 99 percent of my time and rest of the time MY Internet always stays ON, I rent CD/DVDs, get USB from other Ppl and Still even if they are all infected, My PC never got a single thing.

in these means , linux is the best . after using ubuntu first time , i start hating windows due to errors , viruses etc , and now i m a permanent user of ubuntu.

Even on any day when i want to use windows , i jsut use it on virtualbox and then come back to ubuntu

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Back in 2004, I’d written about software piracy in Pakistan, and the difficulty of buying a original copy of windows here.

Well, four and a half years later, I went back out looking for a original copy of Windows XP 64 bit, and found out from Microsoft Pakistan that they don’t sell XP anymore in Pakistan. Than I checked with Galaxy, who used to have it once upon a time - but they only had Vista now.

Somethings never change, it seems. You just can’t buy software here, even if you try. So I headed over to the Piratebay and “bought a copy” from there instead.

[Please don’t like to pirated software here.]

I do own more copies of Windows XP licenses than I actually have running on my PC’s, but ironically all the installed copies are pirated, even on a laptop with the sticker stuck to the button - as it’s so much more easier to install the new pirated versions which have a lot of stuff integrated into them.

I myself have switched over to Ubuntu, the XP was for someone else.

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Last I recall, retail sale of Windows XP licenses had stopped officially (except for a few exceptions like downgrading Vista to XP on some laptops, etc) so I find the claims pretty much baseless.

You will have to go pretty much OEM and even for that, retail sale of OEM licenses is not legal.

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I am beginning to hate windows

It gets infected by viruses and I have tried to

use many anti-virus softwares but they fail to stop the virus the time it gets in the computer

I am looking for linux myself, as I have read on many websites that linux is virus free

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Have you tried to disable Autorun from Group Policy Editor? When opening flash drives, do you make sure that it does not triggers Autorun even manually?

Alternatively, you can make a simple batch file which deletes autorun.inf form every partition/drive and you can execute it before accessing any flahs drive.

Contrary to popular belief (a deliberate act of spreading misinformation by the open source proponents), viruses exist for Linux too. It is only a matter of time before the spread of Linux based PCs becomes prevalent enough to catch the attention of more virii writers.