Pakistan among top countries registering high broadband growth

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/30/pakistan-among-top-countries-registering-high-broadband-growth.html

WASHINGTON: Pakistan is ranked as one of top countries that registered high growth rates in broadband Internet penetration among their populace, the latest worldwide data report for Q1 2010 to Q1 2011 says.

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Pakistan, which has seen a boom in its promising telecom sector and information technology services in recent years, recorded around 46.2 percent growth of subscribers and is placed fourth on the ranking list.

The closest South Asian country to Pakistan on the list of top countries is Sri Lanka at the 11th spot with its broadband penetration growing in 30s while India lags at the 14th place in terms of broadband growth.

Globally, only Thailand and Belarus had greater percentage expansion than Pakistan, apart from top-rated Serbia during the period.

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According to government figures, the country’s information technology exports totaled $1.4 billion in the last financial year.

Experts say the IT industry, which adds thousands of skilled workers every year, has the potential to hit multimillion export target within next five to ten years. Additionally, mobile phone and wireless Internet usage are also expanding rapidly.

we need virgin, sky, and verizon to invest in pakistan and provide fking cheap high speed internet. PTCL is fkin ripping us off.

Are you kidding me about prices ?

Do you have an idea what do they charge here ? PTCL is blessing .

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Are you kidding me about prices ?

Do you have an idea what do they charge here ? PTCL is blessing .

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You sure are right, PTCL is the best…

I was comparing internet rates with my cousin who live in Australia, and it turned out that for my 8 Mbps connection costs half the price of whats offered in AU. So PTCL is indeed cheap and offering very good bandwidth.

my friends, you all are under-cover PEETCL employees registering with different user-names.

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Are you kidding me about prices ? Do you have an idea what do they charge here ? PTCL is blessing .

You sure are right, PTCL is the best…

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A 4MB package of PTCL costs Rs. 2000/-. That amounts to:

Rs. 500 per 1 MB of broadband speed. Now let’s study how

broadband sells in other parts of the world, shall we ?.

broadband_speeds_of_the_world_vs_cost.jpg

In Sweden, it’s Rs. 10 per 1 MB of speed (avg speed there is 18 Mbps)

In Japan it’s Rs. 11 per 1 MB of speed. (avg speed there is 61 Mbps)

In Finland, it’s Rs. 19 per 1 MB of speed. (avg speed there is 22 Mbps)

In South Korea, it’s Rs. 38 per 1 MB of speed (avg speed there is 46 Mbps)

In Turkey, it’s Rs. 53 per 1 MB of speed. (avg speed there is 48 Mbps)

And there are a whole lotta countries, which you can see in

the links and maps provided below, dozens of them, where

broadband is offered at 10 times the speed for prices which

are 10 times less, than our PTCL.

And btw, these are countries where telecom companies have

to pay their techs wages which are more than 10 times those

offered to PTCL employees. And they still are able to make

record profits over there.

So just imagine how corrupt PTCL has to be, to ask for so much

and deliver so little, in return.

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Sheikh ‘Time To Wake Up’ Chilli

PS: This is a repost. The post was originally put up

by myself in I just didn’t wanna have to

write it all up again.

And for this, chillie bhai, you will get my appreciation once again....

I can't imagine anymore is to why people loose track of reality and become falsely modest.

Indeed, Sheikh sahab.

Pakistan lags behind in broadband sector but it must not be forgotten, we are living in a country which is labeled as third world but topper in corruption. We have load shedding, inflation, lower literacy/awareness rate, dead conscience, criminal type rulers, less salaries, and still if we have growing telecoms, IT sector, we should be thankful to God. Imagine, if this country lose such lousy services then, at what place, every Pakistani would be standing?

Stop defending PTCL man. Do you guys own it? To be a 1st world country one needs to have a 1st world telecom infrastructure first. period. PTCL needs to provide cheap high internet with rates on par with USA or UK or maybe even better.

@ sheikh_chili, thanks for giving some ptcl supports a reality check. and btw 4mb now costs 3000rs unlimited, 50gb package is for 2000 which is a frigging joke.

PTCL buys international bandwidth at the same rates

from the same market, that everybody else buys from.

To over-charge subscribers on this scale, with minimum

overhead (low salaries, no investments on improving

the dilapidated infrastructure) is criminal.

It's only logical that you would expect rich countries,

where average pay is several thousand times more

than ours, to have to pay more (in real terms) for their

broadband. But broadband that costs them a dime,

we, have to pay thousands for.

It is so unfair, so utterly unjustifiable and tantamount

to the most unholy examples of monopolistic tyranny,

what PTCL (or should I say Etisalat, a UAE state-

owned business) is doing to us. It's not just sucking

our blood anymore. it has moved on to eating our flesh.

All our top politicians have their second homes in Dubai

where their special needs are catered to by the sheikhs.

In return for this royal hospitality, the Pakistani public at

home is getting royally screwed.

All we need is for our corrupt Govt to get out of the way

and stop trying to stack the deck against fair competition.

The private sector will find a way to deliver better service,

at fair rates.

Don't settle for crap.

Sheikh 'You deserver better' Chilli

I think consumers should complaint to Competition Commission Of Pakistan. http://www.cc.gov.pk/

Can we complain 'the whole pakistan' to CCP? will it work? cause its just not the internet....

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PTCL buys international bandwidth at the same rates

from the same market, that everybody else buys from.

To over-charge subscribers on this scale, with minimum

overhead (low salaries, no investments on improving

the dilapidated infrastructure) is criminal.

It’s only logical that you would expect rich countries,

where average pay is several thousand times more

than ours, to have to pay more (in real terms) for their

broadband. But broadband that costs them a dime,

we, have to pay thousands for.

It is so unfair, so utterly unjustifiable and tantamount

to the most unholy examples of monopolistic tyranny,

what PTCL (or should I say Etisalat, a UAE state-

owned business) is doing to us. It’s not just sucking

our blood anymore. it has moved on to eating our flesh.

All our top politicians have their second homes in Dubai

where their special needs are catered to by the sheikhs.

In return for this royal hospitality, the Pakistani public at

home is getting royally screwed.

All we need is for our corrupt Govt to get out of the way

and stop trying to stack the deck against fair competition.

The private sector will find a way to deliver better service,

at fair rates.

Don’t settle for crap.

Sheikh ‘You deserver better’ Chilli

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Sheikh sahab, indeed.

But the thing is, all private sector is charging the same high as PTCL is. Wateen, Wi-Tribe, Mobilink all are standing in the same row with PTCL. But, why charging so high? The reason could be, other companies have to buy bandwidth from PTCL and then distribute which costs them double. PTCL has hold on national optical fibres which deliver internet to Pakistan.

Indeed, same amount has to be paid for internet as other countries do, but it should not be forgotten, payments for international optical fibre internet are made in dollars and when one dollar is for 86 rupees, the payments raise sky high. Do developed countries have load shedding? Our whole networks run several hour on diesel hungry stand by generators. Is diesel available for free? Our economy is dying. Is it possible for every sinking company to buy new equipments and upgrade its network. Corruption is dead high. When corrupt animals engulf whole system, how progress could be made?

Instead of beating our own heads with sticks, why don’t we try to change ourselves then work to change our future! I hope, no one is ready for it, possibly, including me.

Oh bloggger, get real man, what are u even talkng ABOUT? ur talking as if PTCL is a charity organization providing free amazing internet all over pakistan lol, u dont think that do u? =D Dude, its a profitable organization which make millions in profits every year, they sure can decrease some of their f-king ever increasing profits and lower the internet fees FFS. Jus check out the new installation charges for ONU/GPON internet,15000 non refundable, FU-KING !@#!@#.

@blogger:

If broadband companies in the rest of the world were being

subsidized by their respective Govts, I could understand why

PTCL is over-charging it's customers this way. But that... is

not the case.

What PTCL spends on salaries and upkeep in rupees, here

in Pakistan, companies in Europe and South Asia have to pay

in multiples of Euros and Yens. They also have to meet very

stringent quality and upkeep standards, which further increases

their cost and expenses. (As for PTCL's commitment to service

is concerned, all it takes is a brief sprinkle of rain to expose it).

This should all add up to higher charges for customers in the

developed world. Yet, surprisingly, with all that extra spending,

these companies still have enough money left over to provide

much cheaper and far better service to their subscribers over

there, than PTCL.

If PTCL was operating in Sweden or Japan, it would be charging

it's customers Rs. 25,000/MB. Not Rs. 10/- (The Swedes sure

must be glad they don't have PTCL). Pakistanis are paying a lot

more for their broadband. PTCL isn't making any huge investments

in infrastructure. So where is all that extra money ending up ?.

This, can only mean one thing and one thing only: There is

massive, massive corruption and embezzlement going on in

PTCL rank & file. It's not just the bloated salaries and perks

of the upper mgmt and loads of siyasi bhartiyan. They are all

stealing off the books, like never before.

Faisal Raza Abidi (PPP) brought out a white paper against

the PTCL mgmt. He said that the company which earned a

profit of Rs. 29 Billion in 2010, is projected for a Rs. 3 Billion

loss in the year 2012, if the company didn't get it's financial

irregularities and allegations of corruption sorted out.

Until then, the subscribers will have to cough-up the extra

money to help fill overseas bank accounts of PTCL mgmt.

Sheikh 'Hajaat-e-Iblees' Chilli

I read all the above thread and the only thing came into my mind

"Third world country dreaming of 1st world communications".

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I read all the above thread and the only thing came into my mind

"Third world country dreaming of 1st world communications".

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That’s what they would very much like you to believe.

If that were indeed the case, that, third world countries can

only dream of first world communications, then we wouldn’t

have the cheapest and widely available cellular packages

that we do today. Better than most of the first world. Perhaps

not the fastest, but by far the cheapest.

Why ?. Simple. Competition. An even playing field. Allowing

market forces to work and come up with the most reasonable

price for the service.

A few years ago, a call to the US was more than 100 rupees

per minute. Today, it’s 1 rupee. But if PTCL could have it’s way,

we would still be paying 100, or even 200 rupees. Some people

are OK with paying more for less. Count me out.

Sheikh ‘Ask, And Ye Shall Receive’ Chilli

metaltongue, what? I am not thinking that way. You are just labeling your personal opinions to me.

Man, you are not living in South Korea where 80 % of population is aware of what broadband is. That's a nation which uses free WiFI internet in subway trains. It might amaze you but this is a truth. Our all three national optical fibers add up not to give bandwidth which single optical fiber of South Korea is delivering.

Why are you comparing yourselves with developed countries. ''Yahan loug bhooke mar rahe hain aur inhain ye ghum kha raha hey k broadband mehnga hey''.

Broadband can be expensive for you if your monthly income is 1,000 - 30,000 rupees. But not for those who are earning more than 1 lac a month. End of debate. B)

huh, what? I never compared myself with anyone? i only said that virgin, o2 and other companies SHOULD COME AND INVEST IN PAKISTAN and PROVIDE CHEAP INTERNET. Read my first post. Who will have a problem with more healthy competition? F-K PTCL. its jus another THUG organization which has monopoly over internet. What you gona do if next year they increase the broadband prices by 2,000rs mroe? still gona sing their tune, i dont think so!!