Do you know that you can have Microsoft Visual Studio for FREE!

I am starting this thread in hope to grow some interest in my fellow wiredians to start coding. Do you know that you can get latest developing tools, Visual Studio 2010 Express Edition, from Microsoft for FREE!!!

By the way, you can also have SQL Server Express for FREE!!! if you want to do database programming.

Get it from: http://www.microsoft.com/express

No need to download or install (from DVDs available in market) MSDN, as you can get access latest MSDN from Microsoft's website:

For example: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa718325

If you are thinking to start learn computer language then I'll recommend that you start with C# or VB.NET. Though, C/C++ is also a good option but learning curve is difficult. Whereas, VB.NET probably would be an easy solution. C# is a good option if you have C/C++ background. Just remember, no matter whatever is your language, in managed code, all languages are equal.

A good book could be a good guide to learn new language. Google is a good buddy to help you.

If you have any questions regarding coding, then please write here. I'll try to help.

Then what are you waiting for? Download Visual Studio and write your first "Hello World" program. :)

P.S. Please no homework/assignments/projects. Do your dirty work yourself :D

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last nite a fellow brought a university project at my house. lol although he got it coded from someone but still it was having problems in running the software. I just googled, googled and googled after which allerrors were removed and the application run smoothly. On different forums I got similiar answers and I did those tricks and problem resolved.

Basically a real world project is required to start with. A teacher was recommending me to try on my own to build a telephone directory. And he will help me.

I myself know many fellows who need a guidance in terms, how to start, where is sample code or steps.

Please do share such a site from where we could get a start with a real project type thing.

codeproject may be the one?

If anybody is looking at a a very basic introduction to the world of programming, I would recommend

http://www.udacity.com/

(I already posted about it @ )

The first week Classes were uploaded yesterday. Registration is still open till about the 27th Feb. For the CS 101 course, Language is Python 2.6. Don't even need to download any Python software, start coding right in your browser. No programming experience is required.

You watch short videos, answer interactive quizzes which aren't graded so no pressure, write code. Weekly homework assignments which will be graded as well as final exam. The goal of the first course is to introduce absolute newcomers to computer science & programming. Very diverse background for students - from high school kids to much older people. Have got a forum up @ http://www.udacity-forums.com/cs101/

Course material doesn't work with Opera. So, Chrome/Firefox would be the way to go.

Registration is totally free. Students don't pay anything. It is supposed to a for-profit venture but they are looking at a model where potential recruiters will be paying for access to the top performers in the courses.

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^true

last nite a fellow brought a university project at my house. lol although he got it coded from someone but still it was having problems in running the software. I just googled, googled and googled after which allerrors were removed and the application run smoothly. On different forums I got similiar answers and I did those tricks and problem resolved.

Basically a real world project is required to start with. A teacher was recommending me to try on my own to build a telephone directory. And he will help me.

I myself know many fellows who need a guidance in terms, how to start, where is sample code or steps.

Please do share such a site from where we could get a start with a real project type thing.

codeproject may be the one?

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MSDN is my most visited website. From language references to Windows API references. KB and MSDN articles from Microsoft website are awesome when there is a bug inside Windows or need some kind of workaround.

I use Code Project http://www.codeproject.com/ if I have any questions regarding C/C++ problems. Trust me, even after years of coding, sometime if I stuck at something then I have to ask from my fellow C/C++ coders and Code Project is a good place.

Code Guru http://www.codeguru.com/ is the second site that I visit after Code Project. Of course, Google save a lot of time, just Google and you’ll get tons of website with answers to similar problem.

It's a 90day trial?

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It’s a 90day trial?

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thats wat i’ve got too…

[quote=“wampyr, post:, topic:”]

I am starting this thread in hope to grow some interest in my fellow wiredians to start coding. Do you know that you can get latest developing tools, Visual Studio 2010 Express Edition, from Microsoft for FREE!!!

By the way, you can also have SQL Server Express for FREE!!! if you want to do database programming.

Get it from: http://www.microsoft.com/express

No need to download or install (from DVDs available in market) MSDN, as you can get access latest MSDN from Microsoft’s website:

For example: http://msdn.microsof…studio/aa718325

If you are thinking to start learn computer language then I’ll recommend that you start with C# or VB.NET. Though, C/C++ is also a good option but learning curve is difficult. Whereas, VB.NET probably would be an easy solution. C# is a good option if you have C/C++ background. Just remember, no matter whatever is your language, in managed code, all languages are equal.

A good book could be a good guide to learn new language. Google is a good buddy to help you.

If you have any questions regarding coding, then please write here. I’ll try to help.

Then what are you waiting for? Download Visual Studio and write your first “Hello World” program. :)

P.S. Please no homework/assignments/projects. Do your dirty work yourself :D

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Nice post by the way. And I would disagree with “Just remember, no matter whatever is your language, in managed code, all languages are equal.” This is not true. Consider Java and C/C++. C/C++ is much faster than Java when it comes to performance, and this hold true to date.

Read more on this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)#Performance

And to everyone else. If you want to get your programming very strong, start with C/C++. Get a complete, and I mean complete command over it and you will soon find yourself smoothly sailing.

[quote=“o.O, post:5, topic:16533”]

It’s a 90day trial?

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thats wat i’ve got too…

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Please download the “Express” edition, not the “Professional” edition. “Express” edition is free and will not expire after 90 days.

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Nice post by the way. And I would disagree with “Just remember, no matter whatever is your language, in managed code, all languages are equal.” This is not true. Consider Java and C/C++. C/C++ is much faster than Java when it comes to performance, and this hold true to date.

Read more on this link: http://en.wikipedia…ge)#Performance

And to everyone else. If you want to get your programming very strong, start with C/C++. Get a complete, and I mean complete command over it and you will soon find yourself smoothly sailing.

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First of all, thank you for your post. If you’ll re-read my post you’ll see that I wrote that “managed languages, whether it’s VB.NET, C# or C/C++, they are all equal in speed when compiled”. Unmanaged C/C++ has definitely speed benefits when compiled. Especially C is much faster than C++. That’s why early version of Quake (AFAIK at least up to version 3) were written in C, rather than C++.

However, when we come to manage C/C++ then it’s compiled speed is as equal as other compiled languages of .NET, for example, VB.NET, C# etc.

Is there any link for downloading MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2010?

Searching online every error is not easy.

I am ownloading Visual Studio Ultimate 2010 and this SDC file is downloaded 100% but winow not showing download complete message.

And would I need some decompressor for opening this SDC file?

It's giving error:

Unpacking error. The product did not unpack correctly. Please download the product again.

[quote=“Imran, post:10, topic:16533”]

Is there any link for downloading MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2010?

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As now the internet is usually available for 24/7, there is no need to download MSDN. You can access it directly on the website. I didn’t installed MSDN in my computer. I access it’s website. It has two advantages, no need for local storage space (on HDD) and web’s MSDN is always updated and other programmers can comment on the MSDN’s page to help other programmers. It’s a big advantage especially if there is an internal bug in Windows or .NET.

[quote=“Imran, post:10, topic:16533”]

I am ownloading Visual Studio Ultimate 2010 and this SDC file is downloaded 100% but winow not showing download complete message.

And would I need some decompressor for opening this SDC file?

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I’ll suggest to download the Visual Studio 2010 Express Edition. Download it’s ISO file. It’s free.

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It’s giving error:

Unpacking error. The product did not unpack correctly. Please download the product again.

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Probably, your download was incomplete or broken. Download again. However, I’ll highly recommend to download the ISO of Visual Studio Express Edition. It is free and it won’t expire after 90 days trial period.

Well I am downloading it from here:

http://e5.onthehub.c...o=8&JSEnabled=1

Dreamspark an advantage for a student.

They giving me a 2year valid key. So why not download ultimate? One of m teacher recommends VS2010Professional.

If we prefer Win7 Ultimate then why not go for VS2010 Professional?

I am downloading its ISO from:

http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=12187

I will use my own key for activation.

Here goes the comparison:

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As now the internet is usually available for 24/7, there is no need to download MSDN. You can access it directly on the website. I didn’t installed MSDN in my computer. I access it’s website. It has two advantages, no need for local storage space (on HDD) and web’s MSDN is always updated and other programmers can comment on the MSDN’s page to help other programmers. It’s a big advantage especially if there is an internal bug in Windows or .NET.

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Some times net isn’t available or you can say its down. So need remains. And I think in VS2008 they were providing a local help in the shape of MSDN libray.

People still use visual studio?

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People still use visual studio?

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Hey, stop trollin. There’s some serious ‘downloading’ discussion going on…

[quote=“Specter, post:15, topic:16533”]

People still use visual studio?

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you having some alternate? :)

[quote=“Specter, post:15, topic:16533”]

People still use visual studio?

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So you use Eclipse?

[quote=“wampyr, post:18, topic:16533”]

So you use Eclipse?

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I’m not even a programmer, but yeah I’ve used Eclipse in the past for casual PHPing.

@Specter: In the M$ land, it's Visual Studio all the way. ;)